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01/24/2011

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Kary

I disagree with so much in the five points in the above post it would be pointles to disect it. Should it not be noted, along with the veterinary qualifications listed, that the author of this opinion piece is involved in Pembroke Welsh Corgis?

These sentences I cannot let slip by, however.

"Most disorders we see in purebred dogs were not created by the breeder or the breeding program. They are the result of a mutation or a magnification of a trait by combining genes."

This is smoke and mirrors. Of course the genetic mutation was not 'created' by the breeders. The anomaly, however, has been made more common in the breed by the breeders. That is what is important, not how the mutation came along in the first place.

"Farmers must have figured out along the way that there is something to purebred animals. Most production animals are purebred – such as Holsteins or Angus cattle. They are used for production because of predictable genetic performance, not to impress the neighboring farmer or for their own ego."

I find this to be disingenuous. Purebred cattle have outcross systems in place so that animals of 7/8ths blood can go back into the gene pool. I should know as I farm and breed cattle! Farmers do not adhere to a closed stud book system as registered dog breeders do.

"but as you can see, it is merely window-dressing and does not truly address the problems of dog genetics."

Perhaps someone can illucidate. What would 'truly' address the problems of dog genetics?

Another red herring point as well. The use of the vets at crufts was never aimed at 'addressing the problems of dog genetics'.

Kary

Equinetapestry

I would like to echo what Kary has posted about open stud books in other animals. I often encounter misperceptions about this when speaking to people about horse breeds, because their concept of registries often comes from the closed system found in the AKC. The truth is that many horse registries are not closed, and use the same type of the upgrading schemes that Kary described for cattle. If anything this has become more common in recent years.

As much I applaud the author for trying to take a reasonable approach to both sides, her comments about livestock breeding do not adequately reflect the very real conversation going on among those breeders regarding the trade-offs involved in open versus closed registries. It is inaccurate to suggest that farmers use pure breeding in the same strict sense that it is used in the dog world.

J

it is, to me as a experienced show visitor, and breeder, obvious that most of the breeders do not care for their dogs best but for their own confirmation and thereby setting a side the dogs best. Therefore these kind of checks are for filling their purpose and I wish this to be mandatory on all shows.

Parwaz

If all of our dogs are micro chip and then scanned before shown at Crufts they would have all the details of the health checks that dog has had IE:Hips,eyes, p.c.d,DNA. elbows,ectra, and the dog would be the right dog beening shown, also you are using the right dog/bitch and not a diff one. So a id card should be used. Other counties are using this method but why not the UK KC

Hal

You failed to mention that at cattle shows, horse shows, and other livestock shows, there is always a vet check required, so why isn't this occurring at dog shows?

Yes I'll agree that it's what's under the hood that counts, but many of us have seen the evolution of breeds take them to their detriment, ( a great example being the German Shepherd). To have to look at a crippled Neopolitian mastiff in the showring, that can barely support it's own weight is proof enough that the dog world needs to get in touch with the rest of the animal show world and be scrutinized before they step into that show ring. There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing that and frankly I hope it becomes a standard, just like it is at other animal shows.

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